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Question:How are Market lambs shown?
Answer:Go to the home page and read the lamb guide
 
Question:I\'ve been doing research on various web sites on using a treadmill to build muscle, but they all say different things. My main concern is that they say you will decrease the size of the muscle (loin and rack). Is that true and if so what can I do to prevent that from happening? Thanks
Answer:I do not use a treadmill. I have in the past, but stopped because I did not see the gains of other forms of exercise. You will have to analyze and determine if it works or not.
 
Question:What can you give/do to fill out loin in show lamb cant seem to get anyone to tell us
Answer:There is not anything that creates a fuller loin than the lamb has. Buy a lamb that has the type of loin that you want. If you pull the water off to lower the weight prior to weigh in at a show, simply rehydrate the lamb. No miracles out there.
 
Question: I have 9 year old girl & not very strong.try\'s very hard but can\'t walk lamb without halter. do you have any suggestion\'s? lamb ducks head & gets away from her.
Answer:Use the halter to show. The lamb knows he can get away and will continue to do so unless you train him otherwise. I know this is a little hard, but she needs to get a little mean and tough and jerk his head hard with the halter every time he tries to break. Do this repeatedly, daily and he will stop trying to break away. You can also train with a chain made "breaking" halter. I would also work this lamb by walking a lot prior to showing to tire him out a little and slow him down.
 
Question:how much melatonin do you give 150 lb. lamb? how long before show do you administer?
Answer:Not sure what you are using melatonin for. I cannot recommend any type of drug that is not approved for sheep.
 
Question:Whats the right way to stand a lamb?
Answer:Not sure what you are asking. Go to utube and search "showing lambs" to see how they are shown.
 
Question:What are some healthy was to hold a lamb at a particular weight
Answer:???
 
Question:Do you feed your lambs on a ramp? If so how long and how steep? If not, what height do you set the feeder in relation to the lamb? I heard ramps increase muscle but if they are not set right they can cause the lamb to break.
Answer:NO- I think a ramp causes the loin to break. We feed level with the head so they can eat easily without a strain on the neck.
 
Question:My lamb is always jumping on me and head butting me how do i get him to calm down?
Answer:Control. Simply let him know that you are the boss and shut down the actions as soon as they start.
 
Question:When I get ready to set my lamb he likes to come up on his back feet. How do I keep him from doing that?
Answer:You will have to force him down and put enough pressure on his head that he cannot jump up. Every time he does it and you move forward, you are training him that if he jumps you will let him move. Can be very difficult for a small person with a big lamb.
 
Question:I got a lamb that was small from the start being told by the breeder she would be fine and grow. She weighs 53lbs and needs to be at 100 by March 18 is this possible and if so what can I do what should I be feeding.
Answer:Not going to happen. 47 lbs in 65 days would indicate a daily gain of .75 lbs. Sheep do not gain that fast. All you can do is full feed.
 
Question:This is my first year showing and I was wondering what is a good way to get them to brace and how to harden up the back legs of the lamb?
Answer:Go to the home page and read the lamb guide first. From there, find someone that knows how to brace a lamb and let them show you the correct method. The third is to go to utube and search lamb showmanship.
 
Question:Got a lamb that is rounder in his muscle make anything to make squarer? I think its a genetic thing but thought i would ask. He has a huge loin and monstrous butt.
Answer:Nothing will change the muscle shape. You can add fat to the diet and the fat will fill in some of the creases. Just need to make sure you know how much fat the judge will allow that is judging your show. The fatter they get, the smoother they look.
 
Question:how do i make my lambs hips bigger and wider im feeding him 1 and a half pounds and walk him 30 mins a day what else can i do?
Answer:Not really anything to make the structure larger. The hips are the bone structure. The only thing that increases size of the skeleton is growth over time. If you are talking about increasing muscle, genetic potential, exercise and diet.
 
Question:Best way to get rid of fat on a lambs back?
Answer:Exercise and a higher protein feed. You can add a protein supplement. I like Honor show chow top dress. Follow directions.
 
Question:Any suggestions on how to grow leg shag?
Answer:Not really. I have heard that some use melatonin implants (search melatonin implants for sheep). I have not tried it. We simply brush the leg wool to stimulate growth.
 
Question:Do you have any suggestions on how to burn some fat off a lamb and give it a harder feel in a short amount of time
Answer:Cut the feed back and exercise. Add a protein supplement to the feed. I like HSC top dress. Follow the instructions on label.
 
Question:Hello, are there any good videos, shows, etc that a showman should look at that display top notch showmanship? Thanks!
Answer:There are a few on utube. just search 'lamb showmanship' on Utube to find. Some are actual shows that show kids exhibiting and Purina has a series on there where "experts" go over the procedures to show.
 
Question:My 6 month old Hampshire wether pretty much refuses to be halter-broke. I have tried putting pressure on the dock, and everything that I\'ve read about. Nothing is working. What can I do?
Answer:Be patient and persistent. We go through a halter breaking method. We start by tying the lambs halter for a bungee cord that hangs down from the ceiling. Make sure it is in an open area so he cannot jump up on anything. Once he learns to stand still while tied to the bungee cord, we start walking. We stay behind the shoulder and prompt him by tapping on his side or dock. We walk down the road away from the barn and on the way back to the barn, we stop and brace every 50 feet or so. Lambs are not very smart. Simply pulling on his head with a halter is not going to work very good. You need to "teach" him to move forward with the halter on his head.
 
Question:My show lamb does not like to be touched on back or rear. 2weeks of rubbing while tied. Not helping. U have any suggestions.
Answer:Just repetition. Handle when walking, on table, while bracing, etc. Brush him a lot. If he is real hyper, you can try melatonin tablets to calm him down. Make sure it is OK with the show rules to use the melatonin. Also need to try this at home weeks before the show to make sure it works.
 
Question:Is showing with your lamb\'s front feet on your foot still acceptable in Texas shows? What is or was the purpose of that?
Answer:I don't like it. I prefer all four feet on the ground. When you elevate the front end by putting on the feet or lifting, it makes the loin break in most cases and gives an unnatural look.
 
Question:Is this a good excercise program?... Walk lambs a mile 4 days a week, run them for 10 minutes twice a week, work on setting up and bracing everyday. Is there anything I should add or change?
Answer:SOunds like a great plan. We also put ours on the blocking table for about 10 minutes and brush them to get use to getting handled and standing still. We also brush the leg wool to stimulate growth.
 
Question:Hi, I have been showing for a few years at local shows but am planning to go to our state fair this year. Do you have any pointers for me so that my lambs and I are prepared? Doing well in showmanship is my main goal...
Answer:Repetition and management along with great genetics. Read the lamb guide on the home page for a full description. Make sure you purchase a lamb that is good enough to compete. Proper nutrition, exercise and showmanship.
 
Question:We have a Black head that weighed in at 137lbs and there are a lot of wrinkles. We feed him 2.5lbs of pink tag feed twce a day. Should I add water to the feed to prevent the wrinkles?
Answer:The wrinkles are a hide issue. All you can do is manage the hide. The extra water does not make a difference if he is on full choice water. Keep the hide clean by keeping a blanket on him and minimize the amount of times that you shear. Each time you shear, it will get worse. When you do shear, put a conditioner on his hide every day and blanket.
 
Question:It\'s December and my lamb has too much fat for my liking and my ag teacher told me to feed it powerfuel in October but I didn\'t, and i was wondering if I started feeding it her now if it would do anything, and if so what would it do? Our county show is January 18
Answer:Power fuel is a fat additive, so if he is too fat, it will only make him fatter. I would feed a protein additive. The extra protein helps burn the fat off. Take a look at honor show chows feeding strategies for goats at http://purinamills.com/animal-nutrition-information/articles/show-animals/strategoes-for-feeding-modern-show-goats/ \ I would feed Honor show chow top dress as an additive to the feed and exercise.
 
Question:I have an ewe that has a short neck and her body isnt very long and she is younger than her siblings which are also at my barn. Her siblings look amazing but she is very small compared to them. Could she possibly catch up to them and possibly do well at a county show?
Answer:Probably not.
 
Question:How would you recommend building up muscle mass in a lamb, particularly in the rump?
Answer:Set up an exercise program Think about what you would do if you wanted to build muscle for yourself. Create a similar workout for the lamb.
 
Question:Have a lamb that is 9 months old. Will be showing in a major TX show in about 6 weeks. The lamb has too much fat deposit on his rack for my liking. Lamb is big (~170 lbs) - grew very fast. We have lowered grain (18% protein) to about 1.25 lbs twice daily (noon and evening) and currently feed Purina Lamb Show Chow. Was feeding alfalfa but recently (within last week) switched to Timothy grass because that is what the feed store had. We exercise lamb daily (evenings) and have been for about two weeks now. Lamb is naturally muscular but top is not desirable. What suggestions can you share to try and remove (decrease) excess fat deposits over top of rack?
Answer:If the lamb is too fat, you should decrease fat, increase protein and exercise. I suggest you seek advice from someone in your area that is considered a lamb expert. It is difficult for me to recommend anything w/o seeing the lamb. Most judges today (especially the ones from the North) like the fatter lambs because in gives them the smooth appearance. Make sure you fit the lamb to the judge. The lamb that won San Antonio last year had over .3 " of fat over the rib.
 
Question:Can you spray rubbing alcohol on your lamb to harden the muscles?
Answer:You can spray rubbing alcohol on the lamb. It may give them a cool sensation that makes them tense their muscles, but it isn't going to last very long. Pretty strong smell. Try it at home and see if you like the results before you try it at a show.
 
Question:How do you make the lamb have more muscle without excerise?
Answer:You don't. If you want to create an athlete, you have to treat them like an athlete in training.
 
Question:whats the best way to fill in the loin?
Answer:Usually need to add a little fat to the diet. I like Honor Show Chow power fuel. See the Honor show chow website for feeding strategies for lambs.
 
Question:How would you recommend promoting wool growth in a medium wool lamb. One of my wethers hasn\'t been growing hardly any wool on his legs.
Answer:There are several "hair" growing products on the market. Our lamb has limited wool on his legs as well. We are currently using "Shaply's" MTG (mane-tail-groom). Purchased at Tractor supply. We spray it on and rub it in to the legs twice a week. I do not know if it works or not, it was recommended by a friend I consider an expert with show lambs. In my opinion, nothing is going to produce drastic results. We try to keep the legs clean, apply the MTG, and work the wool to stimulate. It has a distinct odor, so I recommend wearing rubber gloves when applying.
 
Question:My lamb\'s back rump is higher than the rack and top of the shoulder because of muscle. Is there any way I could flatten the two more? Her rack and top of the shoulder kind of slant down. Like an exercise?
Answer:It sounds like you are describing the "jump" muscles located on the top of the rump. If so, some lambs have a round muscle shape which causes this muscle to stick out/ up. Typically, the loin and hip junction is not level and "rolls" off. I do not know of anything that would change the muscle structure. You can add fat to her diet to increase the amount of fat that deposits down the top. This will help smooth out the area a little.
 
Question:Several years ago I purchased the best blankets ever! I can not for the life of me find where I purchased! The canvas is great but most of all, because it had a belly strap like a lifejacket instead of the double D ring- The kids and I were not wrestling finewools every afternoon and morning because they slipped...Any suggestions on where I might find these?
Answer:I use the ones made by Weaver. They have the clips. http://www.weaverleather.com/livestock.aspx
 
Question:What size sock/blanket should I buy for a southdown show lamb. Weighs about 95 pounds now. Should I buy one size larger? Not sure how fast they will out grow or grow into their blankets... etc
Answer:You will have to go off of the recommended weight range for the blanket. One size larger is a lot better than too small. We have several for different weights.
 
Question:What size sock/blanket should I buy for a southdown show lamb. Weighs about 95 pounds now. Should I buy one size larger? Not sure how fast they will out grow or grow into their blankets... etc
Answer:I am not sure. Check the blanket info on the package to match the size with the lamb. You generally want two or three blankets of different sizes so you have one for different weights as they grow. You might get away with purchasing one that is too big at first. Just be careful. Large blankets can cause them to get caught up in the blanket.
 
Question:Does Natural Fill have to be fed from the start of your feeding program or can it be added a few weeks before the show? If yes, what is the ratio of grain/fill?
Answer:I have never fed Natural Fill. From what their website says- it is a feed source(protein, fat and fiber). Primarily adds fiber to maintain proper rumen function. If you feed a high quality show lamb feed you will get everything that you need in the feed bag. If the feed is not complete, the feed tag will tell you what to add. Ex- add hay for roughage. The benefit of feeding a product like NF is that it keeps the rumen working effectively and keeps them fuller if you are limiting feed. The problem that could result is an extended rumen- especially in show wethers.
 
Question:At what night temps should you blanket a lamb?
Answer:Depends on how much wool they have. Simply watch the lambs- you can tell if they are cold- then put on a blanket. We typically keep a blanket on when they are fresh sheared- two weeks or less.
 
Question:Will a product like Fast Fuel or Show Shake make a lambs top and loin feel harder or soft? Also, will these products make a lamb hyper and harder to control? Lamb has plenty of cover and weight and appetite are fine. Just need to harden up the feel of loin and top. He is super jumpy and next to impossible for a very experienced showman to handle and only seems to get worse with every show. Any suggestions? We have been showing him since June and he\'s been to about 5 shows so far.
Answer:First answer on additives. There is nothing out there that works miracles. Each animal has the genetic potential to be so good (or wide in top). The reason we feed products like show shake is to slim down the rumen (belly). It is a common practice to pull the lamb off of feed and water for a period of time prior to weigh in to lower their weight and get into a lighter class- hopefully improve our chances with smaller sheep. Some lambs can be pulled and some cannot- depends on condition and fill. When you pull water, the muscle cells shrink. When you give them water- they expand back to hydrated fullness. Nothing will ever create more top than they had prior to pulling weight. As far as you hyper lamb- I would work with him 7 days a week- a lot of walking and setting up. I would determine how long it takes for him to settle down during each workout and when I got to a show, I would "work" him out the same amount of time prior to showing. Basically, tire him out to the point that he works effectively.
 
Question:What size pen should you keep a show lamb in? Why a big pen vs a small pen or vice versa.
Answer:Our pens are 6' wide and 24 feet long. We take the lamb out daily for exercise
 
Question:I have a show lamb that is 133 pounds when he is set up he tends to over drive and breaks at his loin and hind saddle. any suggestions?
Answer:Yes- you have to learn how to drive the lamb so he doesn't break.
 
Question:I have a 5 month old ewe lamb. She is a hamp x but almost full hamp. She hasnt gotten much taller in the past 2 months but she is gaining weight perfectly fine. Is there anyway I can get her to grow taller faster?
Answer:Only thing you can do is feed a high quality feed and exercise. Her genetic potential for height is based on genetics.
 
Question:I have a 5 month old ewe lamb. She is a hamp x but almost full hamp. She hasnt gotten much taller in the past 2 months but she is gaining weight perfectly fine. Is there anyway I can get her to grow taller faster?
Answer:NOt really. Proper diet and exercise to reach her genetic potential.
 
Question:How much water should I give my lamb at a show
Answer:It varies depending on size of lamb, temperature, amount of work, etc. At least 2% of bodyweight.
 
Question:would you recommend walking lambs backwards on a treadmill?
Answer:I do not use a treadmill, so cannot advise.
 
Question:I have a lamb the the bigger he gets the more his right leg turns out. It might have slightly been present when he was smaller. Is there any way to trim his hoove in a way to turn it back in
Answer:Probably, but hard to tell without seeing him. You can trim the inside hoof shorter to try to make him turn back in. Find someone that is knowledgeable in your are and seek their advise.
 
Question:what can you put on the lamb skin to help with scars from a dog
Answer:I would ask your vet. I have used corona antiseptic salve on them for similar problems.
 
Question:Home made show shake
Answer:I do not have one. I like Show Shake
 
Question:I just want to thank the folks who offer advice
Answer:You are welcome- Jim Missildine I own this site. it is all free
 
Question:I have a lamb that is 150 lbs. Our fait weight limit is 140. I have been walking it. only feeding it 1 cup of rolled oats and put a tube on it. It is a very muscular lamb. no matter the small amount of feed or exercise I give it the lamb does not lose weight. help my fair is in 7 days!!
Answer:The limited feed is not going to do much quickly. The fastest way to pull weight is hold water. When the weather is cool- we have pulled them for 24 hours- no feed or water. After 24- you can continue to limit water- needs a at least 60-80 ounces.
 
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